sherman firefly vs easy 8
Improving the vehicles mobility, protection, and creating specific variants for infantry support roles soon followed. Ancora nel 1956, in occasione della Crisi di Suez lo Sherman era il carro presente in maggior numero nelle forze corazzate israeliane (circa 200). Lo sviluppo dei carri armati nel periodo fra le due guerre mondiali negli Stati Uniti non era stato molto appoggiato dagli ambienti militari, tanto che, nel 1940, l'US Army aveva due soli carri in un numero limitato di esemplari: l'M2 Medium Tank (carro medio), costruito in 18 esemplari, e l'M2 Light Tank (carro leggero), costruito in diverse versioni, ma in quantità comunque limitate. I tested that Easy 8 have weaker penetration vs the new 76mm sherman, The penetration balance is really off between M36Jackson, Sherman Easy 8, Sherman 76mm and Sherman 75mm.
Lo Sherman, grazie al gran numero di scafi costruiti, fu uno dei carri più utilizzati come base per veicoli specializzati. But the 76,2mm ammo for the M1 gun was not usable in the 17pdr. Fino dallo sbarco in Normandia ogni plotone[6] aveva un Firefly (lucciola) in organico. Nel novembre dello stesso anno la 2nd Armored Division, che, nel frattempo, era stata riequipaggiata, partecipò all'Operazione Torch, cioè allo sbarco nel Nordafrica francese, e qui il 6 dicembre 1942 gli Sherman americani ebbero il battesimo del fuoco a Djebel bou Aoukar, dove un plotone del 66th Armored Regiment fu annientato dal fuoco dei PaK tedeschi. (on top of that it being made in 4 different versions, both different visually and thechnically, allows the addition of premiums as well), NOTE: well, it's too bad it did not go further than this, if the americans had actually decided to upgrade to the 17pdr, which they knew they needed but at the same time didn't (tactics and doctrine played a huge role in this decision), because if they did they would not stop at converting older Shermans, luckily for them the 76mm was still capable of doing the job if used correctly, but if it didn't and they started using 17pdrs they would most likely stop making 76mm armed tanks (as it would prove a waste of time in terms of logistics) and from then on everything would use the 17pdr, just imagine a M4A3E8(17pdr)W, a M4A3E2(17pdr)W (or any other Sherman variant, but these were the top ones), or maybe even 17pdr armed M18's and M10's (although the older M10 was also needed to convert into M36B2's) since logistically it would be unproductive to transport/supply both 76mm and 17pdr ammo and priority would most likely go to the more effective 17pdr, too bad it never happened because those would be incredible machines and would probably rewrite the history of the Sherman, currently full of misconceptions, While knowing M4 pretty well I didn't heard about any conversion of m4a3 varraint with 17pdr, only exprot varriats (M4a1, m4a2, M4 composite).
Infatti essendo Il Continental R975 derivato da un motore aeronautico e dovendo la ditta soddisfare anche le esigenze di quell'industria, si ebbe ben presto una penuria di motori che si tentò di risolvere adottando propulsori del tipo più svariato. [5], M4 (Sherman I) Montava il motore radiale a nove cilindri Continental R975C1 (in seguito R975C4), raffreddato ad aria, con una potenza massima di 380 HP a 2.400 giri/minuto e coppia massima di circa 123 Kgm a 1800 giri/minuto.
Sherman Firefly - About 2,000 M4s (Firefly IC) and M4A4s (Firefly VC) were re-armed by the British in 1944 with their 17-pounder (76.2 mm) guns as the Sherman Firefly. 3in Gun Motor Carriage M10A1 - Same as the M10, but based on the M4A3 Sherman chassis. La produzione avvenne presso Fisher Tank Arsenal (da aprile 1942 a maggio 1945), Pullman Standard Car Company (da aprile 1942 a settembre 1943), American Locomotive Company (da settembre 1942 ad aprile 1943), Baldwin Locomotive Works (da ottobre a novembre 1942), Federal Machine and Welder Company (da dicembre 1942 a dicembre 1943) e Pressed Steel Car Company (solo 21 esemplari con cannone da 76 mm.
Altri impieghi bellici degli Sherman si ebbero da parte delle forze della Cina Nazionalista contro le forze comuniste. As with most battles he who sees first fires first and probably wins the battle….. Usati per l'appoggio della fanteria per il supporto ravvicinato furono costruiti dal Detroit Tank Arsenal dal febbraio 1944 al marzo 1945 in 1641 esemplari (M4), e 3039 esemplari (M4A3). Fu costruito tenendo in considerazione le evoluzioni nella guerra corazzata, introdotte in Europa dalla Wehrmacht, e l'esigenza di disporre in tempi rapidi di grandi formazioni mobili. Questa difficoltà di uscita dal carro era una condanna a morte per l'equipaggio dello scafo nel caso che il carro avesse preso fuoco. Only 105mm varriat had HVSS but then different turret. This is almost the definition of obscure. In Europa lo Sherman mostrò tutti i suoi limiti, dovendosi confrontare con i Panzer V Panther, con cui non era assolutamente in grado di competere. armando30, July 11, 2018 in Medium Vehicles, this could be an interesting addition as the top BR Sherman on the US side, well, simply put it's a M4A3 with the old turret (the one that mounted either the 105mm M4 Howitzer or the 75mm M3 cannon) converted in the US into Fireflies BUT in a much more modern and resilient chassis than the British used, since they used the older tanks they had received, the HVSS suspension, wider tracks, thicker sloped frontal armour and Wet ammo storage would definitly be an improvement over the M4A3E8 (76) W we have currently at the top of the "Sherman" line and would definitly reduce the gap in performance for the 90mm armed mediums, before saying it's fake, and I have to confess I did not know about it until now, I just need to make it known that it's existence has been mentioned from at least 2006 in a article by the Historian Steven Zaloga, article: http://www.missing-lynx.com/gallery/48/m4a3fireflysz48_1.html, as mentioned in the article it seems there's no photo of the "second batch" of American Fireflies but he also mentions a photo with 20 or so from the first conversion attempt that the Americans refused (below), this photo does seem to show both Sherman IC Firefly (front row, with the Hybrid/Composite hull with M4A1-like cast frontal section and M4A3-like engine deck section) and Sherman Firefly VC (second row, in the back), although there seems to be 2 differences and those would be the sand-shields used with the HVSS suspension and the drives and radio-operator/machinegunner hatches, it seems to be accepted that the American Fireflies, of which there are documents detailing the program (detailing what the British did on their side), would indeed use the HVSS suspension as it was one of the more common variants of the 75mm armed M4A3's, which was really important because the conversion was planned for the old turret and not the T23 turret from the late production Shermans, it is also mentioned that the conversion of the 80 tanks was planned out according to american specs, that would help convince them since it was easier to convert the exact same tanks they were manufacturing and the British would only need to provide the 17pdr guns OR license it's production in the US. Medium tank tree would more benefit from M27/m27b1 (t23e3/t20e3) as they are m4a3e8 76 HVSS but with general improvements: smaller shuttle, better side armor (less bs overmatch), better mobility and drums please, actually good reverse speed. Armati inizialmente con il 75 mm, alcuni furono ricondizionati con il 76 mm. Ancora nel 2006 lo Sherman era adoperato attivamente dall'Esercito cileno. Data la maggiore potenza ed affidabilità di questo motore nei confronti del Whirlwind fu la variante preferita dalle unità operative, anche se fu costruito in quantità nettamente minore degli M4 ed M4A1 (4761 mezzi). Gli Stati Uniti fornirono il carro M4 a diversi paesi alleati durante il secondo conflitto mondiale. Many saw action in the 1973 October War. Maybe for the M4A3E4s and the HVSS to upgrade more M4A3(76)W. Also the tank crisis of 1950 could be a reasonable bet, a lot of tanks got refurbished or converted to pump as many M4A3(76)W HVSS as possible, cannibalizing any M4 series with HVSS (mainly M4(105) HVSS and the M4A2(76)W HVSS that were lying around after the Lend-Lease shipments).
also they considered Firefly conversion to be substandard due to drawbacks caused on tank (limited gun angles, lower rate of fire, elimination of MG gunner, larger ammo storage (also Wet ammo storage not possible as 76mm pdr ammo is almost as large as 90mm), cramped turret and awkward gunner position). 3071 produced Tanks using late high bustle turrets, with exception of 300 units starting from October 1944 with used older low bustle turrets, unknown % had HVSS. I do not have the knowledge to coment about it really, but afaik the 75mm shells of the M2 and M3 gun were very similar to the KwK 37, in contrast to the 17pdr/M1A1 ammo. Furono realizzati 6.281 esemplari con il cannone da 75 mm. Dopo i successi ottenuti dalla Wehrmacht con il Blitzkrieg, basata su un uso dei carri in cui veniva sfruttata la loro mobilità per fini strategici, si comprese la necessità di sviluppare carri che potessero essere confrontabili con i carri tedeschi. More radical variants followed, first with experiments with flotation screens in preparation for the invasion of Europe by Allied forces in 1944, and later by mounting rocket launching equipment on the turret. La denominazione fu presto ufficialmente adottata anche dall'esercito statunitense. Il carro armato nel dopoguerra è stato in servizio nell'Esercito Italiano dal 1947 al 1952. Almeno uno Sherman fu privato della torretta e, con spesse protezioni di piombo fu usato per portare personale in prossimità del terreno di prova delle bombe nucleari nel Nuovo Messico. La W indica che le munizioni erano wetted, cioè immagazzinate in griglie entro acqua. Notevole diffusione ebbe la variante lanciafiamme, usata soprattutto per annientare da distanza di sicurezza le opere difensive nipponiche. Gli Sherman (2007 M4A2 e 2095 M4A2(76mm) W) operarono anche con l'Armata Rossa, con cui arrivarono a Berlino e Budapest. Israel became the largest post-war user of Sherman tanks, conducting extensive modifications to keep them in front line service right up into the early 1970s as tanks, mobile artillery pieces, armored ambulances and more. Powered by Invision Community. Galkin, comandante di M4A2 del 31º reggimento carri fu insignito della decorazione di "Eroe dell'Unione Sovietica". And there's no mention of m4a3 75 HVSS, latest m4a3e9 still had VVSS suspensions. Published by Gaijin Network Ltd. under the exclusive license. 1,2,3 - 76mm rounds Just merge T25 hull (5.7) with M4A3(76)W turret (5.3), and there you have a T23E3 (HVSS) as a gap between both tanks, no need for exporting British gun.
Questa novità non fu molto apprezzata, tanto che una delle prime attività degli equipaggi, una volta preso in consegna il carro, era di rendere inoperabile il giroscopio, quindi il fuoco generalmente era effettuato da fermo. Alcuni carri ebbero come armamento principale un obice da 105 mm, per uso contro bersagli non protetti. In Armoured Thunderbolt by Steve Zaloga he mentions that the AGF was considering ordering some Fireflies but decided against it when looking at the logistical, and ergonomic issues. Army per contrassegnare il carro canadese Ram (ariete) nella denominazione della Royal Canadian Army.Costruito in 188 esemplari, usati principalmente per addestramento. similar, i never had problem with 76mm m1 even when M4A3 76 HVSS was at 5.7br, you need just to chose right ammo for right situation like in most US tanks.
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